Hi All,

I hardly think selling to the State Government of NSW and Federal Government
of Australia are corporate bums. Government in Australia are very
conservative and are accustomed to dealing with large software corporations.
So yes to compete and bring the benefits of open source to Government, Plone
will need become more corporate in its appeal. If this doesn’t happen I fear
Plone will not survive.

Chris, you must be in a very good finanical position where you can choose
your clients and "discount corporate bums".

Regards Virginia

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:evangelism-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Calloway
> Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2008 12:12 AM
> To: evangelism@lists.plone.org
> Subject: Re: [Evangelism] WPD Logo
> 
> I think the design kicks ass. And as an academic refuge from 23 years of
>   corporate IT, I'd add a) making a logo more "corporate" makes it
> dissolve into the woodwork of generic logos, and b) anyone who would
> judge a technology based on the "corporate look" of a logo has a big
> FAIL written across their forehead and *should* get involved in
> proprietary software so as not to drag Plone down.
> 
> A funny thing about marketing is, you need to be choosy about who you
> bring to the table. If you bring a bunch of corporate bums to the Plone
> table, then Plone becomes known as the software of corporate bums.
> 
> --
> Sincerely,
> 
> Chris Calloway
> http://www.secoora.org
> office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> On 9/23/2008 6:54 PM, Virginia Choy wrote:
> > Hi WPD participants,
> >
> > I think the logo concept is good but in my opinion needs a more
> corporate
> > look. A lot of my business development efforts are targeted at
> Government
> > and Enterprises that need to be convinced that Plone is a viable option
> to
> > proprietary software corporations.
> >
> > Cheers Virginia
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Virginia Choy
> > Business Development Manager
> > PretaWeb - Plone Enterprise Web Solutions
> > W: www.pretaweb.com
> > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > A: 21/29 East Crescent St, McMahons Pt, Sydney Australia
> > P: 61-2-9955-2830
> > M: 61-423-198-306
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:evangelism-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sapiro - Pilot Systems
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 4:48 AM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Cc: Plone Developers; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; plone-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; New Zealand Python User Group;
> >> evangelism@lists.plone.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Further call for help with WPD Logo
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We can "sponsor" some graphic directions if we need a specific logo
> >> for this event :)
> >>
> >> Tell me.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 23 sept. 08 à 06:12, Tim Knapp a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Just further to my previous email re. the WPD Logo - attached is a
> >>> concept generated by a fellow pythonista, i.e. *not* a graphic
> >>> designer
> >>> that may help someone of you out there to create a WPD logo for the
> >>> event[1] :)
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know if you can help us out at all.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again,
> >>> Tim
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/world-plone-day
> >>>
> >>> Tim Knapp
> >>> Custom Plone Solutions
> >>> company: http://www.emergetec.com
> >>> blog: http://kokorice.org
> >>>
> >>> <WorldPloneDay.png>_______________________________________________
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Sapiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Pilot Systems - 9, rue Desargues - 75011 Paris
> >> Tel : +33 1 44 53 05 55 - http://www.pilotsystems.net
> >> Hébergement Zope et Plone gratuit - http://www.objectis.org
> >>
> >>
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