Hi,

Running the check externally (in addition to internally) would be of
benefit to verify that any port-forwarding or proxying in front of your
Z39.50 server is working correctly - especially if there are external
systems such as discovery layers or ILL brokers that use Z39.50 to check
item availability.

Regards,

Galen

On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 4:57 PM JonGeorg SageLibrary via Evergreen-dev <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I have what may be a silly question. I’ve been thinking that adding a
> check against z39.50 should be part of my regular routine, rather than just
> verifying that the service is working. Do you do this test from internally
> or from a server that is external to your network? Would there be a benefit
> from running it externally other than verifying the port is open?
> -Jon
>
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 12:28 PM Josh Stompro via Evergreen-dev <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello, I've been making use of the wiki documentation at
>> https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:sru_and_z39.50
>> when I need to setup and test the Z39.50 server.
>>
>> There is a section for testing the Z39.50 server using the yaz-client.
>> But it always confuses me because the example shows example searches that
>> don't work.  And there wasn't an example that shows how to search using
>> Z39.50 bib attributes. (I added one).
>>
>> I would like to remove the examples of non working searches, unless it is
>> just something that I'm doing wrong.
>>
>> It seems to me that CQL search syntax doesn't work for Z39.50, that only
>> works for SRU.  RPL is the only search syntax that works.
>>
>> So the example of
>>
>> Z> find "dc.title=zone and dc.author=king"
>>
>> is in CQL but gets sent as a server choice search for the keywords
>> "dc.title=zone and dc.author=king" and doesn't return anything.
>>
>> The next example of
>> Z> find "dead zone"  returns results because it gets sent as a
>> serverchoice query which is keyword by default.
>>
>> Jun 13 14:21:10 virt-egutil2 z3950[1886134]: search: translated '@attrset
>> Bib-1 "dead zone"' to '"dead zone"'
>> Jun 13 14:21:10 virt-egutil2 z3950[1886134]: 14:21:10-13/06
>> simple2zoom(502) [request] Search LARL OK 5 3 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 "dead
>> zone"
>> [2025-06-13 14:21:10] /usr/sbin/apache2
>> [INFO:243740:SuperCat.pm:2002:1749790802243740321] SRU search string ["dead
>> zone"] converted to [(srw.serverchoice:"dead zone") site:LARL]
>>
>> Is my understanding correct?  Does it make sense to remove that CQL
>> example?
>> Josh
>>
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