... oops, the piece below went to Lucas but I intended it to all of us
mmpgettingolder
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Betreff: Re: [OSList] Re: From humboldt to harrison to winge... really?
Datum: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:16:31 +0200
Von: Michael M Pannwitz <[email protected]>
An: Lucas Cioffi <[email protected]>
Dear colleagues,
well, precursors to OST were in ancient times, the circle and the circle
breaking up into what we call "breakout sessions" and then gathering
again in the circle was one of the elements HO saw with his own eyes in
a village in Africa... in my understanding a grand example of expanding
time and space for unfolding of selforganisation.
In an os event I facilitated in Kenia I was interrupted by one of the
elders in my introduction with the sentence: "I know this, it is what we
used to do in our village". When I asked him what their gatherings were
called, he said: "Gathering under a shady tree". Other elders in the
group remarked that they heard about such gatherings in their village
(the participants came from various tribes) but that they are no longer
in use.
Humboldt might fit into this picture. He got around all over the world
and it would not surprise me him having seen such processes in the many
cultures that he visited...
I also remember HO or some other wise person saying that they did not
"invent" ost but that they "remembered" it.
Have a great day wherever you
cheers
mmp
Am 28.06.2023 um 08:52 schrieb Lucas Cioffi via OSList:
Hi Bhav and everyone!
I hope you are doing great, and thank you for posting the article
by Tim O'Reilly. I pasted in the relevant quote about the scientist
Humboldt who created a conversational conference.
Given the information available in the article, I can't come to the
same conclusion of the author, that Humboldt's event format was the
same as open space. I think more info is needed to hear about whether
people could propose topics, whether they could choose sessions, and
whether they could move between sessions. From the information
available, it might be that Humboldt chose all the topics and assigned
people to different discussions.
Here is the relevant part of the article:
"Humboldt was revolutionizing the sciences. In September 1828 he
invited hundreds of scientists from across Germany and Europe to
attend a conference in Berlin. Unlike previous such meetings at
which scientists had endlessly presented papers about their own
work, Humboldt put together a very different programme. Rather
than being talked at, he wanted the scientists to talk with each
other. There were convivial meals and social outings such as
concerts and excursions to the royal menagerie on the Pfaueninsel
in Potsdam. Meetings were held among botanical, zoological and
fossil collections as well as at the university and the botanical
garden. Humboldt encouraged scientists to gather in small groups
and across disciplines. He connected the visiting scientists on a
more personal level, ensuring that they forged friendships that
would foster close networks. He envisaged an interdisciplinary
brotherhood of scientists who would exchange and share knowledge.
‘Without a diversity of opinion, the discovery of truth is
impossible,’ he reminded them in his opening speech."
It would be interesting to know more.
Lucas Cioffi
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:16 AM Bhavesh Patel via OSList
<[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/true-inventor-unconference-tim-o-reilly/
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