Dear Bruno, In lieu of a long response let me point out what I believe is the crux of our "disagreement":
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruno Marchal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stephen Paul King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "David Woolsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: Re: I am not meant for your religion snip > SPK: > >We can dismiss the Heisenberg cut without to many problems but we cannot > >hand wave the categorical distinction between subject and object (Cartesian > >cut?)! > > > BM: > Yes we can! There are a lot of so-called materialist monist. I just show > that comp leads to immaterialist monism. A good thing given that nobody has > ever been able to just define what could be a material thing. Physicists does > not even try. snip These "nobodies" and "physicists" that do not attempt to define what is a "material thing" are typically material monist; they assume without question material things and weave endless clever arguments about how qualia and subjective experience are mere epiphenomenona or "intentional stances". Your "showing" that comp leads to immaterial monism has the same problem but instead of mind being an "intentional stance" it is physicality or materiality that is epiphenomenalism. This is what I have been trying to explain and yet you keep dodging my pointed thrusts like a skilled fencer. We are back to were we started a long time ago. Could you consider, even for the sake of discussion, a dualism what in the limit of "Everything" becomes a "neutral monism", similar to Russell's? You read Pratt's paper; did you not see the explanation of the solution to Descartes' dilemma? The epiphenomenalism problem simply goes away! Kindest regards, Stephen