Re: Definitation of Observers

[Eric Hawthorne]

pattern  | physical pattern (constraint on the arrangement of matter and energy in space and time) | physical process (physical pattern with characteristics like that some regular and often localized, and yet complex form of change is of its essence. Can be described as comprised of states, events, and subprocesses) | ........................................................................| physical computational process                   physical sensing process | mind-of-intelligent-observer The | relation is "is-a" inheritance. Does that help successfully communicate what I mean by a pattern that computes and stores information about its surroundings? Eric Brent Meeker wrote: Eric Hawthorne wrote An observer is a pattern in space-time (a physical process) which engages in the processing and storage of information about its surroundings in space-time. This seems like a failure to communicate because of mixing levels of description. If you're going to define "observer" as a pattern you need to say what kind of pattern it is. If you skip to a functional, "processing and storage" or intentional "engages in" level of description then you introduce terms with no definite relation to patterns. Brent Meeker