> -----Original Message----- > From: Brent Meeker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:29 AM > To: Lee Corbin > Subject: Re: What We Can Know About the World > > > On 29-Jul-05, you wrote: > > > Jesse writes > > > >>> I meant that your perceptions have physiological causes > >>> because your brain is a part of an obviously successful > >>> survival machine designed by evolution. > >> > >> Sure, but all of this is compatible with an idealist philosophy where > >> reality is made up of nothing but observer-moments at the most > >> fundamental level--something like the "naturalistic panpsychism" > >> discussed on that webpage I mentioned. > > > > The disagreement I have with what you have written > > is that I do *not* see observer-moments as the most > > fundamental entities. > > There are two distinct kinds of "fundamental". OMs may be epistemologically > fundamental, but not ontologically fundamental. Starting with what we > think we know, we develop a model of reality which goes beyond what we > directly experience. It's the best explanation of our experience that > there is a reality not dependent on our thoughts. > > > >It's just so much *clearer* > > to me to see them arising only after 13.7 billion > > years or so (locally) and that they obtain *only* as > > a result of physical processes. > > That seems to be the most parsimonious explanation. > > > > Brent Meeker