Brent Meeker wrote:

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>
>1Z wrote:
> >
> > Brent Meeker wrote:
> >
> >
> >>1Z wrote:
> >>
> >>>Brent Meeker wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>You misunderstand "population models".  It's not a question of what 
>members of a species think or
> >>>>vote for; it's a matter of whether their logic will lead to their 
>survival in the evolutionary
> >>>>biological sense.  So the majority can be wrong.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Cooper is making valid comments about *something*, but it isn't logic.
> >>>Logic is what tells us the majority can be wrong
> >>
> >>Cooper is not talking about logic in the formal sense; he's talking 
>about reasoning, making
> >>decisions, acting.  This can be "wrong" in the sense that there is a 
>better (in terms of survival)
> >>way of reasoning.
> >
> >
> > If you want to judge what is better in terms of survival,
> > you need to use logic.
>
>No, you just need to see who survives.  Experiment trumps theory.
>
>Brent Meeker

Presumably Cooper used theory to show why certain types of reasoning are 
more likely to aid survival, no? Anyway, we still need assumptions about 
logic and math to make sense of statements about basic experimental 
observations like "the individuals with trait X survived more frequently 
than those who lacked it."

Jesse



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