Jesse; while I fully support your objection to 1Z's
"natural laws are the same in all naturally possible worlds." and "Well, it's hard to imagine pain being anything other than painful!" I question your restrictions in: >any world that does not contain a logical or mathematical > impossibility, or any other type of incoherence in its >description, is > viewed as a possible world.< These criteria are spring from our human views and IMO 'nature' (or whatever you like to call 'everything') has the right to implement ideas, qualia, processes (if I may restrict the subjects to those we can think of - ha-ha) way beyond our measures of any allowability, coherence or description. Well: IMO possible is possible, not just OK to 'our' rules. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Mazer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Bruno's argument > > 1Z wrote: > >>Jesse Mazer wrote: >> >> > But "natural laws" are usually taken to be contingent, we can imagine >> > possible worlds where they are different--can you have "supervenience" >>under >> > logical laws, or any other laws which must be the same in all possible >> > worlds? >> >>natural laws ae the same in all naturally possible worlds. > > True, but when philosophers talk about "possible worlds" they are almost > always using a broader notion than possibility under the laws of > physics--any world that does not contain a logical or mathematical > impossibility, or any other type of incoherence in its description, is > viewed as a possible world. > > Jesse > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006 > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---