Le 04-août-06, à 15:18, W. C. a écrit :
> I remember other people mentioned before. *Normal* people can't accept > that > there is no physical universe. > Even Buddhists won't say that. Sorry. I was short. All what I say is that IF we take the comp hyp seriously enough THEN we can see that "physical" is not a primitive things (this follows from the UD reasoning, you can ask question). I was meaning there is no "primitive" or "substantial" or "primary" physicalness. Naïve primitive Matter is a form of "ether" (assuming comp). On the contrary "physics", as the science of observable patterns reemerge as a study of relative measure on computations (more exactly quotient of set of computations by a relation of undistinguishability related to person's point of view). Those are well defined through the Church thesis in computer science. Now the objective idealist (not solipsist) type of reality we are lead to from the comp assumption has been defended by many buddhist schools (mainly from the Mahayana), and has been more or less the orthodox way to consider reality during a millennium of greek philosophy/theology. You are right it hurts common sense. The rest of your post has been well answered by Stathis and Quentin, imo. I have nothing to add. Recall that nobody asks you to believe that comp is correct, just to assume it for the sake of the argument. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
