On Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 3:48 PM Keith Henson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> A lot is going on that I just don't understand. *


*What's happening is just what you'd expect to happen if you hand over the
controls of the most powerful economy in the world to a man who has so
little understanding of economics that he couldn't figure out how to get
his casino to make money. You can be pretty confident that a man like that
will drive an economy, any economy, into a ditch quite quickly.  *


> *> The US is raising the cost of chip production machines with large
> tariffs.  This will cause lower chip production which I don't think was
> intended but when you stick a large tariff on machines that cost well over
> $100 million companies will buy fewer of them. The other strange thing is
> the attempt to keep high-end chip-making machines from the Chinese.  That
> seems incompatible with ruining the market for these machines and expecting
> the machine builders (and countries) not to seek a market in China.)*


*Yes exactly! The Dutch Company ASML makes the world's most advanced chip
lithography machine, the $380 million Twinscan EXE:5000, nobody else has
anything even close to it, it's a high numerical aperture device that uses
extreme ultraviolet light. Below is a picture of the machine which is about
the size of a diesel locomotive and weighs 150 tons. It's shipped from
Holland in 250 separate crates and requires about six months for 250 ASML
engineers to reassemble and calibrate it before it can be used:  *


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*It was designed to produce 3 nanometer chips and can crank out 185 wafers
per hour, but if you push it you can get down to 2 nanometers and
apparently the Taiwan company TSML, which has bought several of these
machines, did just that because a few days ago they announced they will
start mass producing 2 nm chips in the second half of this year. 2 nm is
about the width of 20 Hydrogen atoms or 8 cesium atoms.*

*The 'World's Most Advanced Microchip' Has Been Unveiled*
<https://www.sciencealert.com/the-worlds-most-advanced-microchip-has-been-unveiled>

*China desperately wants to buy a bunch of those $380 million machines but
ASML (which I remind you is a Dutch company not American) won't sell them
any because of pressure from the USA,  ASML had only been allowed to sell
the much cheaper and far less sophisticated 38 nanometer NXT:2000i to
China, but in early 2024 Biden stop them from selling even that. However
Trump's recent actions have greatly reduced the efficacy of the pressure
the US can exert on that Dutch company. So I wouldn't be surprised if ASML
soon changes its policy and starts to sell China anything they want. *

*And this will make America great again?  *

>
*> But what do I know?*
>

*You know one hell of a lot more than Donald Trump! But then again so does
just about everybody.  *

* John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*

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