On Tuesday, July 29, 2025 at 7:35:57 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 7/29/2025 4:47 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:



On Tuesday, July 29, 2025 at 2:22:50 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:



On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 4:12 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> But is it proven*


*Yes, but not all proofs are mathematical, some proofs are physical, that's 
why physicists need to perform experiments.  No mathematician in previous 
centuries, no matter how intelligent, could've sat in his armchair with a 
notepad and derived quantum mechanics.  * 

*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*


In the UP/DN case of electrons passing through the SG apparatus, the spin 
might be non-existent,


Electrons are spin 1/2 particles. But as I've noted several times, you 
don't send electrons, or any charged particles, thru an SG.

 just another quantum number. But the fact that the electrons respond to 
the magnetic field as they do, in opposite directions, strongly suggests 
IMO that they have real physical spin. 


Silver atoms are used because they have a big magnetic moment.


Hence, the idea of modeling them as orthogonal instead of anti-parallel 
makes no sense. AG


Spin UP and spin DN are orthogonal in Hilbert space.  In 3-space they are 
anti-parallel.

Brent


Naive question; how do those silver atoms know they're in Hiibert space, 
and not 3-space.? AG

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