David Nyman: > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:20 AM > To: Everything List > Subject: Re: Are First Person prime? > > > George Levy wrote: > > > Colin Hales remarks seem to agree with what I say. However, I do not > > deny the existence of a third person perspective. I only say that it is > > secondary and an illusion brought about by having several observers > > share the same frame of reference. This frame of reference consists of > > identical contingencies on their existence. > > I'm glad you find agreement here. I don't think any of us deny the > existence of a third person perspective. All three of us, I think, > agree that it is secondary, but where your 'third person' comes into > being through the sharing of a frame of reference, I'm applying the > term to the totality of 'frames of reference', whether shared or not. > Your 'shared frame of reference' would seem to be achieved through my > 'shareable knowledge base', but for me a frame of reference is always > third person from one perspective or many. So I'm saying that third > person is an illusion brought about simply in virtue of having a 'frame > of reference' at all - the illusion inherent in representing the world. > I'm not quite sure what to do about this inconsistency of terminology. > Perhaps the 'shared illusion' could be 'objectivity'? >
Perhaps the 3rd person is best called 'virtual'. It's role is one for 'as-if' it existed. Colin Hales --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
