On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 6:19 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

* > There is no good way to draw up Congressional Districts. *
>

*True but some ways are less bad than others. The least bad way would be
every four years a computer program would use data from the census (but
ignore party affiliation) drew districts that had shapes that took
advantage of natural dividing lines like rivers and lakes but were as close
as possible to regular polygons (not ridiculous fractals as they are now)
and contained an equal number of registered voters.  *


> *> Suppose your state is entitled to 7 Congress critturs.  And it's 40%
> Republican.  So you should create a map with 3 majority R and 4 majority
> D.  But that means if you're a D and live in an R district your vote means
> nothing and vice versa. *
>

*That's just a consequence of the fact that in a democracy with a diverse
population not everyone is going to get their way. However there is an easy
way to minimize that problem, let people vote for more than one person in
presidential elections (or any election for that matter), and whoever gets
the most votes generated by 161,000,000 registered voters gets to be
president. In today's system only 538 people get to vote for the
presidency, members of the elite Electoral College. Many people think
they're voting for a presidential candidate but they're not, they are
voting for somebody who is allowed to vote for the president. That's nuts.
 *

*Suppose there were 3 people running for president, X, Y, and Z. In your
opinion X would be a wonderful president but you realize his chances of
winning are vanishingly small. You think Y would be an OK average
president, he's nothing to get excited about but has about a 50% chance of
winning. And in your opinion Z would be an apocalyptically dreadful
president but also has about a 50% chance of winning. So, who do you vote
for? *

*In today's system I would vote for Y without hesitation, but for reasons
I've never understood millions of people would vote for the hopeless cause
X. But if they were allowed to vote for more than one person then they
could vote for X AND Y. Such a system would discourage the election of
radical left wing or radical right wing candidates and I think that would
be a good thing because there is a top to good but there is no bottom to
bad.  *



> *> The problem is having one representative=one district. *
>

*The original idea was that if there is a local problem then there is one
guy from the same locality and is familiar with the situation that you can
complain about it to. That would be nice but I think it works better in
theory than in practice and is an advantage we can afford to sacrifice. *



> *> The usual measure of how much gerrymandering is bad, is how the mix of
> the representatives differs from the mix in the Presidential votes; which
> would go away if the representatives were elected at large, like Senators. *
>

*If we're going to fantasize about solutions that are never going to happen
.... A better idea would be to eliminate the Senate entirely and just have
the House of Representatives. That way you wouldn't have the ridiculous
situation where Dakota has 4 senators but California only has two even
though California has 23.7 Times as many people in it than the population
of North and South Dakota combined. And of course we should eliminate the
ridiculous electoral college and whoever got the largest popular vote
should be president, if that had been the case we would've never had George
W. Bush and the Iraq war, and we would've not had Donald Trump, at least
not in 2016. *

  *John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
t5.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To view this discussion visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0dq%2B_5JmqN-e1KVCcFeEC4bVOk5vT-%2BYPFLyK817oTzA%40mail.gmail.com.

Reply via email to