On Thursday, September 25, 2025 at 4:40:15 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 8:02 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *> his overall claim makes sense* *All stories, if they are any good, make sense; but that is insufficient to determine if they are fiction or nonfiction. * *I appreciate your willingness to discuss this issue. Keep in mind that this isn't mathematics where there are usually definite solutions. Do you buy the story of the lone assassin whose motive we still don't know, who was not an expert markman, who fired a bolt action rifle three times in about 6 seconds and succeeded in killing JFK? Why wasn't Ruby called to testify? It seems to me that his mission was to prevent a trial of Oswald, where the rules of evidence apply, and was ordered to do this by his mob boss who owned the nightclub he managed, Carlos Marcello. AG * *> Oswald failed the paraffin test, so it's highly unlikely he fired a gun that day.* *Not quite. The paraffin test revealed positive results on Oswald's hands, suggesting the presence of nitrates, which could be from firing a gun. However, a test of his right cheek showed no reaction, making the results inconclusive. And the paraffin test is obsolete because today it is considered unreliable. * *> And of course, the Zapruder film which clearly shows JFK's skull being blow BACK,* *That was explained by Nobel prize winning physicist Walter Alvarez in a paper he wrote in 1976. Here is his conclusion from the abstract: * *I am aware of that interpretation, but I believe what I see, and it's JFK being shot from the front. Moreover, that's what doctors at the hospital reported, and their reports were repressed. Stone wasn't the first to report this. AG * *"a theoretical and experimental investigation of the "backward snap" of the President's head immediately after he was killed yielded the surprising result that it was consistent with a shot fired from the rear, the speed at which the camera was running, and a previously undetected deceleration of the President's automobile just before the final shot." * *And then Alverez gets more graphic and says this: * *"I differ from most of the critics in that they treat the problem as though it involved only two interacting masses: the bullet and the head. My analysis involves three interacting masses, the bullet, the jet of brain matter observable in frame 313, and the remaining part of the head. It will turn out that the jet can carry forward more momentum than was brought in by the bullet, and the head recoils backward, as a rocket recoils when its jet fuel is ejected."* *And remember Walter Alvarez was not a Roger Stone style crackpot, he was a Nobel Prize winning physicist. * *The full paper can be found here: * *A physicist examines the Kennedy assassination film <https://fisherp.scripts.mit.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/American-Journal-of-Physics-1976-alvarez.pdf>* * > indicating shot from the front, from the grassy knoll.* *Nope. * *Witnesses reported hearing a shot from the grassy knoll. They can't summarily dismissed. AG* *> **several** witnesses at the School Book Depository saw Oswald on the 2nd floor, in or near the lunchroom, at the time JFK was murdered.* *Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable, especially when a highly emotional event is involved. * *It is sometimes unreliable but not "notoriously" IMO. People are routinely convicted of crimes based on eyewitness testimony. The Warren Commission could have called them to testify under oath and cross examination. It's telling that it did not. AG * *And the lunchroom was very near the spot where the gun was fired. * *I'm pretty sure the lunchroom was located on the 2nd floor, whereas the alleged shot was fired from the 6th floor. AG * *> And we mustn't ignore the deathbed confession of Trafficante* *Right, if you can't trust a mafia boss to tell the truth who can you trust? * *I think we can believe Trafficante's attorney that the mob boss said what he reported. What could be the motive of Trafficante lying on his deathbed? AG * * John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* wah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4d31ccac-95e0-4e97-b301-7b9df80406cen%40googlegroups.com.
