Le 18-août-06, à 19:01, 1Z a écrit :
> That is quite different from conjuring up existential conclusions > from non-existential premises. I believe there exist numbers, prime numbers, even numbers, etc. and in relative universal numbers, ... (with Church Thesis "universal" need not to be accompanied by "turing"). Relative universal numbers can be defined through addition and multiplication only. They associate to each number relative ways to generate the diophantine sets, which are the Wi (and thus coding of the Fi) which I explained to Tom and George. So I believe in the collection of all (mathematical) relative computations. A well defined highly non trivial structure, especially "n-viewed from inside". So I have ontological assumptions: the non negative integers together with their additive and multiplicative structure. Ontologically: nothing more, nothing less. Epistemologically: the same + induction axioms. (on the natural numbers, or not). From that I explain how discourse about quanta and qualia emerge in a sufficiently precise way so that we can compare the comp physics (physics from the number) and empirical physics. (A test has already be done and confirmed comp, the rest are mathematical conjectures). The UDA shows it has to be like that. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---