Bruno Marchal writes (quoting Brent Meeker):
> >> Bruno: > >> Because ethics and aesthetics modalities are of an higher order than > >> arithmetic which can be considered as deeper and/or simpler. > >> Classical arithmetical truth obeys classical logic which is the most > >> efficient for describing platonia. Good and bad is related with the > >> infinite self mirroring of an infinity of universal machines: it is > >> infinitely more tricky, and in particular neither classical ethics nor > >> aesthetics should be expected to follow classical logic. > > > > That seems unnecessarily complicated. Good and bad at the personal > > "Whahooh!" and "Ouch!" are easily explained as consequences of > > evolution and natural selection. > > > > Here is perhaps a deep disagreement (which could explain others). I can > understand that the 3-personal "OUCH" can easily be explained as a > consequences of evolution and natural selection, for example by saying > that the "OUCH" uttered by an animal could attract the attention of its > fellows on the presence of a danger, so natural selection can .... > But, and here is the crux of the mind body problem, if such an > explanation explains completely the non personal "Whahooh/Ouch" then it > does not explain at all the first personal "OUCH". Worst: it makes such > a personal feeling completely useless ... And then it makes the very > notion of Good and Bad pure non sense. > Of course platonists, who have grasped the complete reversal (like the > neoplatonist Plotinus, etc.), have no problem here given that "natural > evolution" occur "logically" well after the platonis true/false, > Good/bad, etc. distinction. The personal feeling related to "ouch" is > "logically prior" too). Evolution explains why we have good and bad, but it doesn't explain why good and bad feel as they do, or why we *should* care about good and bad beyond following some imperative of evolution. For example, the Nazis argued that eliminating inferior specimens from the gene pool would ultimately produce a superior species. Aside from their irrational inclusion of certain groups as inferior, they were right: we could breed superior humans following Nazi eugenic programs, and perhaps on other worlds evolution has made such programs a natural part of life, regarded by everyone as "good". Yet most of us would regard them as bad, regardless of their practical benefits. Stathis Papaioannou _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
