Bruno -

It appears that you and I have essential agreement on our higher-level
epistemology.

But I don't know much about your "comp" so I'll begin reading.

- Jef
Bruno Marchal wrote:


> With increasing context of self-awareness, subjective values > increasingly resemble principles of the physical universe.



Apparently you are even more optimistic than me. I just wish you are correct here. It is fuzzy because the term "resemble" is fuzzy.

Yes, I was writing in broad strokes, just to give you the pattern, but
not the detail that has been mentioned earlier.  Humanity certainly
could be within an evolutionary cul de sac.

<snip>



Since all events are the result of interactions following
the laws of the physical universe,


Hmmm... It is out of topic, but I don't believe this at all. Better I can show to you that if "I" (or "You") are turing-emulable, then all events, including the apparition and the development of the physical laws are the result of the relation between numbers.

For the sake of my argument I might better have said that all
interactions seem to follow a consistent set of rules (which we see as
the laws of the physical universe.  It seems that you have some theory
of a more fundamental layer having to do with numbers.


http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/

I'll take a look.

- Jef
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