Dear John Mikes, I thought your words 'Origin of (our) universe' are the same as the word 'origination-point'.
You said: (1) > 1 Origin of (our) universe: we have no way to know. > And you also said: (2) > we CANNOT reach to earlier items than the origination-point (whatever it > may be) of our existence (I called it 'universe', not quite precisely). > >From (2) claim it logically follows a statement "we can reach to items later or equal to origination-point." I agree (2) statement, but slightly disagree with (1) statement. Mindaugas Indriunas On 3/5/07, John M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear Mindaugas Indriunas, > what I meant consists of the worldview that we can use > > in our speculations only our present cognitive > inventory of our existing mind. > No information from super(extra)natural sources > included. Accoredingly we CANNOT reach to earlier > items than the origination-point (whatever it may be) > of our existence (I called it 'universe', not quite > precisely). > Nor can a 'valid' ALGORITHM reach back further. Itg > cannot 'generate' information about ' no information' > topics. All we can speak about are intra-existence > items, the rest is fantasy, sci-fi, religion. > What I may use in a narrative, but by no means in the > conventionally outlined "scientific method". > > John M > > > > --- 明迪 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear John Mikes. > > > > I am sorry for the late response. I will reply only > > to 1 part of your > > letter: > > > > 1 Origin of (our) universe: we have no way to know. > > > > > > If we do come up with an alorythm that actually does > > produce the data that > > we postdict (predict in the past), we may be able to > > (with some certainty) > > know it. Even the cellular automaton that is > > equivalent to universal turing > > machine, has its beginning. > > > > Mindaugas Indriunas > > http://i.tai.lt > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---