Hi Jason I have not contributed to the list for a while but your question interests me. I do not accept as primitive an independent mathematicalism/arithmetical realism. I think that math and logic are co-emergent with the consciousness of the observer. In addition physics is also co-emergent with the observer. So in a sense the "I" or first person is primitive-emergent. "I", math and physics are all anthropically linked.
The information of the plenitude being zero is the simplest case that requires the least explanation. Any other information content would have to be justified, and that would force us an endless causal chain. Now let me qualify that the "perceived" information of the plenitude is definitely not zero because it is contingent on the observer. Here the causal chain can begin at the observer. The simplest theory of everyting is that everything exists. But this is hardly satisfying. A useful theory of everything should bring in the observer as a boundary condition. The theory, more precisely, which physical model is "true," may be indeterminate. This indeterminacy would be analogous to quantum indeterminacy applied to the cosmic scale. This would correspond to the "I" being equally "at home" in multiple different worlds or equivalently that multiple worlds would be in a superposition with respect to the "I." George Jason wrote: >I have seen two main justifications on this list for the everything >ensemble, the first comes from information theory which says the >information content of everything is zero (or close to zero). The >other is mathematicalism/arithmatical realism which suggests >mathematical truth exists independandly of everything else and is the >basis for everything. > >My question to the everything list is: which explaination do you >prefer and why? Are these two accounts compatible, incompatible, or >complimentary? Additionally, if you subscribe to or know of other >justifications I would be interesting in hearing it. > >Thanks, > >Jason > > >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
