>3PV observation and analysis _may_ eventually turn up with objective >criteria that establish universally consistent and reliable >correlation between certain brain processes and certain reported >phenomenal experiences
Of course. It appears from all scientific evidence that phenomenal experiences are completely dependent upon physical processes. But this does *not* establish that phenomenal experiences are *identical* to physical processes. From the fact that phenomenal experiences supervene upon physical processes, it does not follow that one is reducible to the other. I repeat: (1) Phenomenal properties are mathematical properties. Mathematical properties are not human fictions, but are objectively real things, since they are indispensable for our explaantions of reality. *Mathematical properties are about meaningful patterns (knowledge). *Physical properties are about energy transfers. *They are correlated but they're not the same thing. They're as different as milk and water. And any-one who can't see this is blind. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---