On Nov 13, 2008, at 10:02 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > I think there is a misunderstanding of the MWI.
Ok. I wanted to try putting things in terms of the MWI rather than a more extreme version of many-worlds like Bruno's, since a lot more people accept the MWI. But of course, I can make the point I'm making without talking about the MWI. > I doubt that it will ever be possible to build a teleporter. In a previous post, you wrote that someday "we'll be able to build robots that really do exhibit conscious behavior". (I agree.) If we can do that, we can also dispense with the robot bodies and just make software that exhibits conscious behavior. When that happens, I will believe that this manufactured person (let's call him Fred) is as conscious as "I" am. It will be a trivial matter to teleport Fred or make multiple copies of him. Therefore, in the sense that matters to this conversation, we do know that teleportation is physically possible in this universe. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're arguing that it's ok to talk about what Fred should expect to experience one second from now as long as we don't make multiple copies of him. But if we tell Fred that we're about to duplicate him, and put one copy of him in a (virtual) red room and one in a (virtual) blue room, it doesn't make any sense for him to ask, "What am I about to experience?" I'm arguing that it is still a sensible question, and that "You're going to find yourself in a red room or in a blue room" is (one) sensible answer. Of course, we have to strip this answer of the metaphysical baggage that makes it *sound* like we're implying that one or the other of the two copies must be the "real" Fred. I think we can say "Fred is going to find himself in a red room or in a blue room", while fully acknowledging that, from the third-person point of view, both copies are Fred (or whatever other way we choose to say it). It's similar to the way that we keep using the word "I", even though we don't believe in a soul or a unified consciousness. If you agree with the last paragraph, then we've pretty much been arguing about nothing. If you don't, I'd be interested to hear why. -- Kory --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---