I am behind, because I was away delivering Science talk to Star Trek fans. I am uncertain what to take away from this thread, and could use the clarification. As an aside, I read(or tried to) read the SANE paper on the plane. Ronald
On Aug 10, 11:24 am, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > >> Bruno's "comp" is something rather different and idiosyncratic > > > You keep saying this. This is a lie. > > I am not yet entirely sure of this. Let me correct my statement by > saying that this is just a common lie, similar to those who have been > made purposefully in the seventies, and repeated since then by people > who even brag on this in some private circles, as it has been reported > to me more than 20 times (since 1973). > > You have stated in this list many times recurrently that I assume > platonism without ever telling us why you think so, or what texts > makes you think so. > > Recently you have make the "progress" to attribute me only, now, an > implicit assumption of platonism. That is a progress, because it means > you have eventually realize that I am not making that assumption > explicitly, and that what I call Arithmetical Realism is a much weaker > statement. Good. > > But you still seems to want to attribute me platonism as an implicit > assumption. > > That is not enough to refute an argument. If you believe sincerely > that I am using an implicit assumption of platonism in the UDA > reasoning, you have to show us where in the reasoning the assumption > is implicitly used. > > If you dismiss this, you look like those materialist computationalist > who just assume there is an error because the result contradict their > theory, and then don't take the time to even read the argument. > > That is not a scientific attitude. It is an appeal to dogma. It > prevents serious people searching some possible "real" mistakes or > awkwardness in the reasoning. > > Sorry for having to make such remark. But it is highly confusing for > everybody when people ascribes to other people the product of their > own imagination, especially in difficult and new domains (new to > scientific attitude). > > At least you do it publicly, which makes me think you could still be > "not lying", but only under the spell of materialist wishful thinking. > > Bruno Marchal > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---