On 31 Aug, 19:15, Rex Allen <rexallen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Flammarion<peterdjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On 9 Aug, 06:55, Rex Allen <rexallen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Brent Meeker<meeke...@dslextreme.com> 
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > If you suffer epileptic seizures seeing a neurosurgeon may offer 
> >> > considerable advantage.
>
> >> If that's what the future held for me, then that's exactly what I
> >> would do.   Otherwise, I wouldn't do that, since it wouldn't be in my
> >> future.
>
> > If you can't see into the future, you are going to have to
> > make your mind up in the present
>
> Assuming physicalism, my brain will make my mind up for me,

Asssuming physcialism, your brain is you and not some external force
pulling your strings

> based on
> the initial conditions of the universe plus the laws of physics.
> Given those two things, my "choice" is a forgone conclusion.



Assuming the laws of the universe are deterministic

> Assuming UDA/platonism...the same holds true.  My experience of
> choosing exists eternally amongst the infinities of computational
> relations between all the numbers.
>
> Either way, there is only the epiphenomenal experience of making my
> mind up...not the actuality of doing so.
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