On Sep 29, 11:14 pm, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Craig, do the neurons violate the conservation of energy and > momentum? And if not, then how can they have any unexpected effects?
Here's a post I did today that hopefully helps clarify how I think it works: http://s33light.org/post/11288327147 but to answer your question, no, they don't violate any physical laws. I think it's possible that the only fundamental difference between a neuron and a liver cell is that the neuron is tasked with participating in making sense and decisions for the organism as a whole rather than just the processes related to hepatic metabolism. This seems even more likely since they just found a way to turn liver cells into neurons: http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-10-scientists-liver-cells-neurons-technique.html They have unanticipated physical effects (though not unexpected when you have access to the private sensorimotive causes) because electromagnetic charge is manipulated through sensorimotivation. In the post I suggest maybe a perpendicular polarity - east vs west which influences charge between high level and low level processes. All we see is that neurons spontaneously depolarize their membranes in groups but there is no physical law which suggests when such a spontaneous firing would occur. We can force the firing by changing the voltage externally, but in the absence of external stimulation, the brain continues to be spontaneously active. Besides, our ordinary experience suggests that we do enjoy voluntary control over many processes of our mind and body as evidenced by the distinction we perceive between those processes and the processes which we have only partial voluntary control, are involuntary, or are outside of our direct awareness entirely. It only seems unexpected because you are ruling out our subjective expectations a priori. It's not necessary to partition the subjective and objective if we are talking about subjectivity itself. Awareness is just another phenomena in the universe, it just seems very strange to us because we ourselves are awareness so we aren't designed to be able to detect our own detection directly (how would that really work?). We can't put it into any kind of predictable object-in-space 3- p model, we can only infer it from correlating our 1-p experiences with our 3-p measurements. Just as we can't watch ultraviolet tv shows, our use of microscopes, MRI, etc, give us no capacity to extend our vision to the 1-p and actually serve to extend our blindness of it by presenting a seamless world of physical objects in space with no hint of perceptual subjects through time. Does that help at all? Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
