Isn't a "decision" just the result / output of a probably subconscious computation in the neural network, given some exogenous and endogenous inputs ? Indeed the neural net must do what it can with incomplete information, being mostly what there is. That is, the nature of reality is unknown.
Gandalph On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:31 PM, John Mikes wrote: > I wrote it several times before and write it again: there is NO SUCH THING as > a FREE WILL in a world of total interconnectedness and continual change. The > term has been invented by religious potentates to keep gulligible people > under their thumb for FEAR of repraisals if they > committ "CRIMES" (as they identified). Gullible people believed it including > physicists who tried to justify it in their math-ways - no matter how. > To make a decision is either consciously dependent on the 'givens' (i.e. > circumstances as we see them, as compared to our situation - interest - or > possibilities) - OR - it is unconsciously so. > We can decide AGAINST our known interest or survival: that, too, is a > consequence of our conscious, or subconscious mindset. Nothing FREE. > Bruno's: "...free-will as the ability to take decision in absence of complete > information..." is perfect: nobody CAN have PERFECT info. > We are living in a model of our ad hoc knowledge while the not yet received > "rest of the infinite complexity of the world" also influences our existence > (decisions?) beyond the portion we know of. > As is the rest of his reply. > > John Mikes > > > > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:12 AM, ronaldheld <ronaldh...@gmail.com> wrote: > arXiv:1202.0720v1 [physics.hist-ph] > > Abstract > It is argued that it is possible to give operational meaning to free > will and > the process of making a choice without employing metaphysics. > > comments? > Ronald > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
