On Feb 14, 6:48 pm, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012  1Z <peterdjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Free Will is defined as "the power or ability to rationally choose
>
> If its rational then there is a reason for it and thus it's deterministic.

False, because causes need not be reasons, and reasons need
not be causes.

> > > and consciously perform actions, at least some of which are not brought
> > about necessarily and inevitably by external circumstances.
>
> So a hand calculator hooked up to a roulette wheel so that one time in 37
> it gives the wrong answer has free will.

There's nothing particularly rational about giving the wrong answer
one in 37 times. However, naturalistic libertarianism holds that
more complex combinations of chance and determinism can do the trick.
Your objection is a like Craig's claims that, since  a toaster is dumb
and unconscious, so is Big Blue and all its successors.

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