Craig and Brent: "Free Will" is not a matter of faith. One does not "believe "IN" it, or not". (Of course this is a position in my (agnostic) worldview - my 'belief' ha ha). We are part of an infinite complexity with limited capabilities to accept influence from the infinite factors (if those ARE factors indeed, not just 'relations') Our mental activity (assigned in our limited conventional sciences to the brain) is pondering consciously and unconsciously, including arguments we know of and arguments (not yet?) known. The result may not be deterministic because we are not a simpleton machine (sorry Bruno, emphasis here is on simpleton) so we may have 'options' - choices, but not 'freely at all. We have the power to choose disadvantegously, even knowingly so.
We know only a portion of the factors (aspects, I almost wrote: components) in the infinite complexity (call it God, or nature, totality, wholeness, or even everything) and surely misunderstand even those. We "humanize" knowledge into terms and qualia we can understand and use. Such is our 'model' of the world. Our mental work is influenced by the 'model-content' AND also by facts (?) beyond our knowable circle. Decisionmaking is a complex procedure using the known and unknown influences into a result within the givens. I repeat my original position: "FREE WILL" is the reins to keep human slaves in line by fear of violating the 'rules of power' (religious, or political/economic) WILLFULLY and undergoing to a punishment later on. The concept of SIN. JM On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>wrote: > http://pss.sagepub.com/content/22/5/613.abstract > > Abstract > > The feeling of being in control of one’s own actions is a > strong subjective experience. However, discoveries in psychology and > neuroscience challenge the validity of this experience and suggest > that free will is just an illusion. This raises a question: What would > happen if people started to disbelieve in free will? Previous research > has shown that low control beliefs affect performance and motivation. > Recently, it has been shown that undermining free-will beliefs > influences social behavior. In the study reported here, we > investigated whether undermining beliefs in free will affects brain > correlates of voluntary motor preparation. Our results showed that the > readiness potential was reduced in individuals induced to disbelieve > in free will. This effect was evident more than 1 s before > participants consciously decided to move, a finding that suggests that > the manipulation influenced intentional actions at preconscious > stages. Our findings indicate that abstract belief systems might have > a much more fundamental effect than previously thought. > > > Has anyone posted this yet? Hard to explain what brain correlates are > doing responding to an illusion... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
