On Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:01:45 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: If you turn that understanding around though, you will solve the hard problem:
The micro-state description has lots of information missing, but the absence is in a form that you need a macroscopic human observer (with or without a camera) to record. When you look to the micro you get a lot of low quality but precise data. When you look at the macro you get less data but it has much more meaning and aesthetic value to the observer. What your view is missing is that it takes for granted that the micro, distant, a-signifying presentation is not a presentation at all, but rather just the totality of what 'simply is'. When we focus on that hyper-realization of objects, we get a worldview which necessarily de-personalizes the subject. We disqualify and discard the universe of 'information' that 'seems like' it might be, based on the momentum of history which is still recovering from the excesses of worldviews which hyper-personalize the object and de-realize the subject. If you look at my diagram, I am integrating information as a two part phenomenon - inform and form. I think this solves the explanatory gap as the space between 'Sense' and 'Inform' denotes the symbol grounding problem where the stream of sense input may or may not match the capacity of the system to be informed by it - as you say 'not in a form you can record with a camera.' Human emotion is information which is not in a form you can record with silicon. The micro state is what I call 'lower caste' relative to our higher caste anthropological world. The lower castes are available to the higher castes but described in mechanistic, generic terms. Castes that are higher than our own, by contrast, appear to us as uncanny synchronizations and coincidences, as well as super-signifying icons and archetypes, cliches, narratives, etc. > It has lots of information - just not in a form you can record with a > camera. > > > the warm water by itself has higher averaged physical entropy over the duration of the movie, but very little information entropy and I wind up with a small file output. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/rNK05HfrwRwJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
