On 02 Jul 2012, at 20:12, meekerdb wrote:

On 7/2/2012 7:36 AM, Jason Resch wrote:

Do you really not see any difference between tables and chairs and people and numbers,


Chairs and people are also mathematical objects, just really complex ones with a large information content. This is the necessary conclusion of anyone who believes physical laws are mathematical.

No, it's a necessary conclusion of anyone who cannot distinguish a description from the thing described.


I can follow you on this. the fact that the chair obeys mathematical laws does not logically entail per se that the chair is a mathematical object. But comp does not give any choice in the matter, as I have already explain. A non mathematical chair cannot select a mathematical comp consciousness without both the chair and the consciousness being non Turing emulable. Your argument might apply on Tegmark, but obviously Tegmark does not take the 1-comp indeterminacy into account.

Bruno


http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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