2012/8/29 Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net> > On 8/28/2012 4:02 PM, meekerdb wrote: > > On 8/28/2012 12:50 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: > > Not at all. You need only a Turing universal system, and they abound in > arithmetic. > > > This universality, as you yourself define it, ensures that all copies > are identical and this by the principle of indiscernible are one and the > same mind. There is no plurality generated unless there is a necessitation > of a physical state association to a mind, but this would contradict comp. > > > No I it doesn't contradict comp, because the associated physics isn't > ontologically primitive, it's part of what is generated by the UD. > > > Hi Brent, > > Until there is a precise explanation of what this phrase "generation > by the UD" might mean, we have just a repeated meaningless combinations of > letters appearing on our computer monitors. > > > But I think it is right that there must be an associated physics, that > 'mind' cannot exist independent of a physical world it experiences. > > > Please explain this to Bruno, as it is that I am complaining about in > his step 8. > > I don't recall Bruno ever talking about free floating minds. The only thing he said is that the physical world result of the indeterminacy on the infinite set of computations that goes through our current state (the one assumed perfectly captured at the right substitution level) that diverge on the next step.
Quentin > > Of course whether it must be a physical world exactly like ours or > wildly different is the 'white rabbit' problem. > > > Have you noticed that I am discussing a solution to the white rabbit > problem using ideas from game theory? > > > Brent > -- > > > -- > Onward! > > Stephen > http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
