Hi Roberto Szabo You don't need much evolution to arrive at a being that can feel and has at least some intellectual capacity. Any living entity has to know friend from foe, pain from pleasure, and so forth. But rocks, like computers, have no need for such abilities, because they are both dead. And the dead do not evolve.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/8/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Roberto Szabo Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-07, 11:17:29 Subject: Re: The poverty of computers Hi Roger, Brains some years ago had no "intellectual or feeling facilities" too. It came by evolution. Roberto Szabo 2012/9/7 Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> Hi Stephen P. King ? No, machines, even computers,?MHO in practice have no intellectual or feeling facilities, are no more than dumb rocks. So there is no more communication with God possible than there would be with an abacus. ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/7/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-06, 19:39:10 Subject: Re: The All On 9/5/2012 12:14 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Roger, On 05 Sep 2012, at 17:23, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal ? No, the supreme Monad can see everything even though the monads have no windows. ? Also the "closeness to God" issue depends on your clarity of vision and feeling.?nd perhaps appetites. So everybody's different.? ? I agree. But my point was that "everybody" includes possibly machines, and that we are not supposed to dictate God which creatures he can look through.? Bruno Hi Bruno, ?? I agree with you here 100%! -- Onward! Stephen http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
