Roger,
I agree with John here. Except that his point is more agnostic than
atheist.
A better question to John would be: explain where consciousness and
universes come from, or what is your big picture. John is mute on
this, but his stucking on step 3 illustrates that he might be a
religious believer in a material universe, or in physicalism. Perhaps.
To be clear on atheism, I use modal logic (informally). if Bx means "I
believe in x", and if g means (god exists)
A believer is characterized by Bg
An atheist by B ~g
An agnostic by ~Bg & ~B~g
But you can replace g by m (primitive matter), and be atheist with
respect of matter, etc.
Someone who say that he does not believe in God, usually take for
granted other sort of God, that is they make a science, like physics,
which is irreproachable by itself, into an explanation of everything,
which is just another religion or pseudo religion, if not assumed
clearly.
I advocate that we can do theology as seriously as physics by making
clear the assumptions. Like with comp which appears to be closer to Bg
than to Bm. But g might be itself no more than arithmetical truth, or
even a tiny part of it.
Bruno
On 10 Sep 2012, at 18:27, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
> If you are an atheist, prove that God does not exist. If you
can't, you are a hypocrite in attacking those that do believe that
God exists. You haven't a leg to stand on.
A fool disbelieves only in the things he can prove not to exist, the
wise man also disbelieves in things that are silly. A china teapot
orbiting the planet Uranus is silly, and so is God.
John K Clark
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