On 24 Sep 2012, at 18:16, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Monday, September 24, 2012 5:13:11 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 23 Sep 2012, at 20:11, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:28:49 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
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> On 23 Sep 2012, at 15:05, Roger Clough wrote:
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> > Hi Evgenii Rudnyi
> >
> >
> > Phenomena are the how physical processes appear to our senses.
> > So they are appearances, not the processes themselves.
> > But scientific experiments and measurements are not
> > made on the appearances, they are made on the
> > processes. Thus the appearences areor [phenomena
> > are said to be "well-grounded" in the processes themselves.
> >
> > Kant spelled this out in great detail, calling "noumena" the
> > actual physical process which we cannot reach by our senses,
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> And which does not exist, at least not in the sense that they cause
> our senses.
> This is the most counter-intuitive aspect of comp, as the physical
> process are projection on the conditions making the dream coherent.
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> Why does comp want coherent dreams?
Coherent dreams are reasonable data.
Why does comp want reasonable data?
Comp does not want them. We have them. They are what *we* want to
explain. Comp is just the working hypothesis.
Bruno
Comp has to justify their
existence (easy, with comp), and their relative measure (hard).
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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