Hi Stathis Papaioannou  

The self is not the brain, which is objective.
The self is the subjective or personal view of what the brain does.  


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
10/2/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


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Time: 2012-10-01, 19:20:12 
Subject: Re: Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment 


On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Roger Clough  wrote: 

> A brain in a vat would probably have an autonomous self, 
> which is needed for everything the brain does. 
> 
> I don't see how an autonomous self can be present in 
> a computer, because autonomous means it can't depend 
> on anything--- especially not hardware or software. 
> 
> Let me also say it this alternate way. The output 
> of an algorithm (let's say a choice, given an input) 
> is always dependent on what the algorithm did. 
> And algorithms are software. 

In that case a brain can't be autonomous either, since it depends on 
hardware (the matter the brain) and software (encoded in the brain 
through experience). 


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