Hi Stathis Papaioannou The self is not the brain, which is objective. The self is the subjective or personal view of what the brain does.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/2/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stathis Papaioannou Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-01, 19:20:12 Subject: Re: Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > A brain in a vat would probably have an autonomous self, > which is needed for everything the brain does. > > I don't see how an autonomous self can be present in > a computer, because autonomous means it can't depend > on anything--- especially not hardware or software. > > Let me also say it this alternate way. The output > of an algorithm (let's say a choice, given an input) > is always dependent on what the algorithm did. > And algorithms are software. In that case a brain can't be autonomous either, since it depends on hardware (the matter the brain) and software (encoded in the brain through experience). -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.