On 08 Nov 2012, at 14:45, Stephen P. King wrote:

On 11/8/2012 6:43 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb

So how does Platonia's perfect necessary classes restrain or
contain this world of contingency ? Or does it ?

Hi Roger,

That is exactly my question! How does Platonism show the contingent to be necessary? As far as I have found, it cannot show necessity of the contingent. In the rush to define the perfect, all means to show the necessity of contingency was thrown out. This is why I propose that we define existence as necessary possibility; we have contingency built into our ontology in that definition. ;-)

In which modal logic?

What you say directly contradict Gödel's theorem, which shows, at many different levels the necessity of the possible. We even get that for all (true) sigma_1 sentences (the "atomic events in the UD execution) p -> []<>p, that is the truth of p implies the necessity of the possibility of p, with []p = either the box of the universal soul (S4Grz1), or the box of the intelligible or sensible matter (Z1* and X1*). The modal logics becomes well defined, and allows, in Platonia, all the imperfections that you can dream of (which of course is not necessarily a good news).

Bruno





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11/8/2012
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On 11/7/2012 5:52 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
Again: we are still left without an explanation as to how the accidental coincidence of a Platonic Truth and an actual fact of the world occurs.

Why do you write 'accidental'? Platonia is our invention to describe classes of facts by abstracting away particulars.

Brent



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