On Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:58:21 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > Ultimately we can arrive at a better society, > but ultimately we will all be broke. Look > at europe. >
If we don't arrive at a better society, we'll all be in debt and sick. Craig > > > [Roger Clough], [rcl...@verizon.net] <javascript:> > 12/16/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > *From:* Craig Weinberg <javascript:> > *Receiver:* everything-list <javascript:> > *Time:* 2012-12-15, 15:59:22 > *Subject:* Re: Moral evaluations of harm are instant and > emotional,brainstudyshows > > > > On Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:44:46 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: >> >> On 12/15/2012 2:46 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> >> On Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:29:50 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: >>> >>> On 12/15/2012 1:51 PM, Roger Clough wrote: >>> > How about this: >>> > Liberals are utopians, conservatives are skeptical of them. >>> >>> Dear Roger, >>> >>> No, All that is different between them is where their respective utopias >>> lie. Liberals yearn for a future utopia on Earth, conservatives pine >>> over their utopia in the past. >>> >> >> I would agree with that, but the thing is, the former may or may not be >> possible but the latter is certainly impossible. What is there better to do >> than to try to push civilization in the direction of a future utopia? What >> could be more destructive and foolish than to try to undo what has happened >> and put future back in a box? >> >> Craig >> >> >> Hi Craig, >> >> How about we drop the entire idea of utopias and work together to >> solve the problems that we have with the tools that we know work (as they >> have worked before in similar situations). >> > > That is what Progressive politics is all about. That is how you move > toward a better society. I have never heard them use the word utopia or > perfect society though. > > > >> "Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes" >> or some such... >> >> > That's what I'm saying. Hanging on to slavery, apartheid, colonialism, etc > * was a mistake*. > > Craig > > -- >> Onward! >> >> Stephen >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/0cVPlHnAqKkJ. > To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/Qg_Lw1Xb5iMJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
