Hi Craig Weinberg 

Enhancing Life is not a very arbitrary value,
but of course interpreting what that means 
can differ from person to person.  That's why we have
laws, either religious or legal ones.

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1/3/2013 
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On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 6:29:55 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg   

So what's good for one may be evil for another. 
No surprise there. That's why an overriding 
referee or judge (God) is necessary. 


Why would the relativity of value necessitate some kind of referee? Any 
physical change robs one system of energy by increasing the energy of another. 
Why should there be an independent judge watching over these transactions? With 
sense instead of God, the weight of consequence is within the experience 
itself, subjectively implicit rather than an objectively explicit independent 
entity.




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On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 4:14:18 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:   
Hi Craig Weinberg   

CRAIG: Enhance whose life though?   

ROGER: Anybody's life. 

Disinfectants destroy microbiotic life. 
  


CRAIG: Would slavery Good or Evil?   

ROGER: The masters diminish the life of the slaves. 
The slaves have their lives diminished.  So there's 
no good in it at all.   

The slaves enhance the lives of their masters. Their masters have their lives 
enhanced. So there's as much good in it as not. 
  


CRAIG: What about promiscuity or dessert or yeast?   

ROGER: Promiscuity diminishes the value of love and commitment, 
    hence of life. I have no opinions on dessert or yeast. 

Promiscuity without contraception enhances the number of pregnancies.  If you 
have no opinion on the others, does that mean that they don't fit into the 
good/evil dichotomy? 



CRAIG: Is cell division good or evil?   
I would say that growth of healthy cells is goog because they enhance life. 
And growth of cancer cells is evil or bad because they can cause death. 


Cancer cells enhance their own life. 
  





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1/1/2013   
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On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 10:08:36 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:   
A Theology for Atheists   

There are two opposing forces in the universe, those which enhance   
life, which we call Good, and those which diminish life, which we call Evil.   


Enhance whose life though? Would slavery Good or Evil? What about promiscuity 
or dessert or yeast? Is cell division good or evil? 

Who determines what 'enhanced' or 'diminished' means?   




As evidenced, these can be present in both happenings and in people.     

We have the freedom to support either cause or not support one.   


Don't we support both at all times, just by being alive? 
  

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A Theology for Theists   

The same holds as above, with the addition that there is some   
overriding intelligence which causes the happenings, good or   
evil, either preferably or acceptably. It can also read and/or inform   
our hearts.   


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1/1/2013     
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