Hi Telmo Menezes The Schrodinger wave equation (SWE) uses a "quantum wave function" psi(r,t), which is the mathematical probability that a quantum particle will be at certain location r at time t.
Solution of the Schrodinger equation for the two slit experiment will give you an interference pattern at the photographic plate even though the quantum wave function psi is just a mathematical expression. Psi only converts to a particle when psi arrives at the photographic plate. So psi is not physical, it is a mathematical solution to the particular SWE. The only physical part of the experiment is at the end when the wave hits the photographic plate. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/13/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Telmo Menezes Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-12, 09:45:51 Subject: Re: Quntum waves are probability (mathemaqtical) waves,not physical waves Hi Roger, Sure, neither do I. But if you preform the double slit experience you will see physical wave-like patters of interference. If it quacks like a duck... I'm not a materialist and I have no problem with the idea of the physical world being a dream. But I also believe that all experiences are equally real, including dreams. Including the literal dreams we have when we sleep. So I believe in the physical world without being a materialist. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Telmo Menezes I don't pretend to be a physicist, but I do know that quantum waves are probability functions. ?here are the radius and time t in the Schroedinger equation, so there must be some correpondence to the physical world, but nothing physical is waving. So suppose we have a physical box. ?he probability waves have to conform to the dimensions of the box, but they are ghost-like waves of probability. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/12/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Telmo Menezes Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-12, 07:01:01 Subject: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory Hi Roger, How can you have a wave without some notion of spatial/temporal dimensions? On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Roger Clough ?rote: Hi everything-list, I don't believe that Descartes would accept the MWI. Here's why: I think that the ManyWorldsInterpretation of QM is incorrect, due to the mistaken notion (IMHO) that quantum waves are physical waves, so that everything is physical and materialistic. This seems to deny "quantum weirdness" observed in the two-slit experiment. Seemingly if both the wave and the photon are physical, there should be nothing weird happening. My own view is that the weirdness arises because the waves and the photons are residents of two completely different but interpenetrating worlds, where: 1) the photon is a resident of the physical world, where by physical I mean (along with Descartes) "extended in space", 2) the quantum wave in nonphysical, being a resident of the nonphysical world (the world of mind), which has no extension in space. Under these conditions, there is no need to create an additional physical world, since each can exist as aspects of the the same world, one moving in spactime and being physical, the other, like mind, moving simulataneously in the nonphysical world beyond spacetime. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/12/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. 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