On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:45:12 PM UTC-5, JohnM wrote: > > Roger: it is obvious that you have not understand a word of my post. Did > it feel good to mention it as "far left"? My experience is balanced, I was > a victim of right and left (and also of the so called middle) in my latest > 75 years of active life on 3 continents. > Please try to understand what you read. > John Mikes >
Far Left = Hitler, Robert Redford, libraries, Pol Pot, people who eat vegetables, Barack Obama, the Bubonic Plague, things that aren't good, dark things, women. Left = Far Left Progressive = Far Left Moderate = Far Left Far Right = Does not exist Conservative = Heroes, hard workers, patriots, businessmen, wealthy old people, anti-communists, God, Jesus. > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Roger Clough <rcl...@verizon.net<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Hi John Mikes >> >> That's the argument of the Far Left, that miltary strength >> induces our enemies to attack us, so we should cut back on >> defense spending. And any defensive actions we have made >> in the past only count against us. >> >> Since we are dealing with fanatics. you could be right, >> but my personal opinion is that they hate us anyway, >> so cutting back will not improve things, and is less >> likely to deter them. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> *From:* John Mikes <javascript:> >> *Receiver:* everything-list <javascript:> >> *Time:* 2013-01-28, 15:04:01 >> *Subject:* Re: Re: The "fairness" argument and women in the infantry >> >> Not with (money/power hungry) politicians we have nowadays. That, maybe >> a "Superior firepower" brings up competition and - maybe - crimes like the >> 9-11-2001 especially if some religious self-sacrifice can be included. >> Imperialism has its new formats, e.g. to rule over natural resources (raw >> materials) and labor-power abroad. >> Such was the Taliban negotiation in 2001 with the Cheney-group(?), >> allegedly leading to a required standstill in FBI etc. surveillance - when >> preparations for the attacks were already on their way, as the Washington >> visiting Israeli PM allegedly hinted on his visit at that time. >> And do not tell me that exercising the superior firepower 6000+ miles >> away on the far side of the Globe is to protect the US-soil. >> One more thing: fire-power includes also the bombing prowess of a >> semi-civilian(?) militant group, as we witness in Iraq - Afghanistan. >> Nobody can 'occupy' (pacify) a country with planes, drones or Navy ONLY >> with infantry on the ground. And THAT would include women. >> IMO political diplomacy should make FRIENDS, not victims. >> JM >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Roger Clough >> <rcl...@verizon.net<javascript:> >> > wrote: >> >>> Hi John Mikes >>> You wrongly assume that the killing power of the infantry >>> necessarily has to do with imperialism or aggression. I >>> believe in PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER. >>> >>> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >>> *From:* John Mikes <javascript:> >>> *Receiver:* everything-list <javascript:> >>> *Time:* 2013-01-27, 12:31:36 >>> *Subject:* Re: The "fairness" argument and women in the infantry >>> >>> Roger - >>> thank you for your clear-minded post. I my add: there is a shortage of >>> men for the imperialistic politics the US seems to pursue and without >>> resoring to general draft only the female input is hopeful. >>> John Mikes >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Roger Clough >>> <rcl...@verizon.net<javascript:> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> The "unfairness" argument爁or allowing women into the infantry >>>> is emotionally based, thus爃ard to defend against, so that regrettably >>>> I fell for it. 燭he argument is that爊ot allowing women into the >>>> infantry is unfair to women because "they are just as good as men" >>>> at fighting, and not allowing them in the infantry is unfair to their >>>> advancement. >>>> This pov has been tested by the Bristih military, and it was withdrawn >>>> after 18 months because it didn't work. >>>> The function of the military is to insure our national security, not >>>> to be fair to women, so that the correct question should be, instead, >>>> "will allowing women into the infantry improve the killing power of the >>>> military ?" >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>>> Visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>> *DreamMail* - Your mistake not to try it once, but my mistake for your >>> leaving off. use again www.dreammail.org >>> <%--DreamMail_AD_END--> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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