That just semantics. In my metaphysical string cosmology god is created by the compactification of space dimensions.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi Kim > > God is not himself created since the creator of all cannot create himself > and still remain a creator. > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Bruno Marchal > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-01-30, 13:19:48 > Subject: Re: Hateful > > On 30 Jan 2013, at 06:06, Kim Jones wrote: > >> "we do WHOSE will"??? >> >> I mean, what if God turns out to be a gigantic chicken or the >> Michelin Man? > > > Of course it depends on what you mean by God. > If God appears to be he Michelin Man, we have already a problem as the > Michelin Man has a name, but God does not, hmm... > > If you mean that the Michelin is really responsible for our existence, > then we might have to revised our opinion on the Michelin Man. > > > >> >> Are we still happy with our chosen values? > > Why not? > > Our value should be kept independent on any scientific discoveries, > including in ethics, as they only confirms or refute hypotheses, and > our values are deeper than those hypothesis. If not, you make some > science into a religion, but then you play the pseudo-science or > pseudo-religion games. > > Bruno > > > >> >> K >> >> >> >> On 30/01/2013, at 4:01 PM, "Stephen P. King" <stephe...@charter.net> >> wrote: >> >>> On 1/29/2013 11:13 PM, Kim Jones wrote: >>>> This is a pretty well-worn, oft-used, school prayer. Given it is >>>> recited or sung by the entire student body and staff at a good >>>> many schools and other institutions you would have to assume that >>>> it's all fundamentally good stuff. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Teach us, good Lord, to serve thee as thou deserves; >>>> to give and not to count the cost; >>>> to fight and not to heed the wounds; >>>> to till, and not to seek for rest; >>>> to labour, and not to ask for any reward, >>>> save that of knowing we do thy will. >>>> >>>> >>>> Amen. >>>> >>>> >>>> But it's all incredibly bad advice, really - don't you think? Why >>>> do people assume God wants Earthlings to be such a bunch of try- >>>> hards? >>>> I hate this prayer. It advertises values that no one can live up >>>> to and no one need live up to. Surely we can invent a better, less >>>> servile, less obsequious, less cringing, less Gollum-like take on >>>> what we think God wants for us. >>>> >>>> All this servility, this grovelling at the feet of somebody. Is >>>> God really into all that? I don't believe it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kim Jones >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Saint Ignatius' prayer, no? Common for those in Jesuit schools. I >>> never hear it in my days of Christian school... Many people live >>> well with such ideas in their heads, why the licentious talk of them? >>> >>> -- >>> Onward! >>> >>> Stephen >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everything- >>> l...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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