On Saturday, February 2, 2013 4:02:46 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi socr...@bezeqint.net <javascript:> and Craig, and all, > > How can intelligence be physical ? How can meaning be physical ? > How can thinking be physical ? How can knowing be physical ? > How can life or consciousness or free will be physical ? >
How can it not? Because I can move my physical fingers and type these words, and you can see these pixels and read them as the same (or very similar) words with your physical eyes, we must begin from the position that in fact, the universe has no problem whatsoever integrating private conscious experience with public bodies. It is our odd position, as human beings>animals>organisms>matter that convinces us that the human being level and the matter level are irreconcilable. In fact, they are all different qualities of experience as seen from a human fisheye lens. The inside of inorganic matter is much slower and much faster than the inside of a whole human nervous system - it's like comparing a every tiny bubble in every glass of beer with a single enormous soap bubble floating lazily in odd shapes for decades, covered with iridescent diffraction patterns. >From our view, the beer foam lacks the interesting colors and shapes. From the view of the beer bubbles...well, we have no idea really if there is a view of us from there...like Flatland or the Star Trek with invisible high-speed aliens who sound like mosquitoes, we are out of range of their micorcosmic/astrophysical (smallest and largest) fisheye view. To me, physical means real, and real means that it exists within the context of sensory-motor participation in a context which is experienced where privacy can be discerned from public. If you are seeing private experiences in public (like synchronicity), or public experiences in private (like entopic neurological patterns floating in your visual field, then you are moving away from realism and physics, and toward intuition, delusion, genius and madness. Also infancy, and religion, trance, imagination, etc. There need not be such a stigma around these states, but they do push off the edge of the human fisheye lens and make a mess. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.