Bruno,
you write mystique.
First you mention "THE REAL UNIVERSE" (who said ther IS one?)

then you line up a series of "IF"-s. What about IF NOT?

You seem to justify the 'truth' of arithmetics on the basis of human logic
(prime #s, 2+2=4, etc.) which may be a flimsy dependence of the Natural
Logic building up the World. Maybe an illogicalistics?
We are restricted in our tiny mindset and think "That's IT!"
Looking at those 10 millennia of human evolution: we gradually get smarter
and know about more and more (rightly or wrongly).  But we still have no
idea whether ANYTHING we think is real, of just a fantasy in our effort to
EXPLAIN the unknowables?
You wrote you are "more" agnostic than myself. Does it apply to those
"if"-s?


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:46 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net <
socra...@bezeqint.net> wrote:

>   How to describe the Universe as it really is ?
> =.
>    In his " Scientific Autobiography" Max Planck wrote :
> ' The outside world is something independent from man,
>  something absolute, and the quest for the laws which apply
>  to this absolute appeared to me as the most sublime scientific
>  pursuit in life. '
>
>  What are these ' laws which apply to this absolute ' world ?
> ==..
> In the beginning Planck wrote, that " From young years....
> the search of the laws, concerning to something absolute,
> seemed to me the most wonderful task in scientist’s life."
> And after some pages Planck wrote again, that
> " the search for something absolute seemed to me the
> most wonderful task for a researcher."
> And after some pages Planck wrote again, that
> “ the most wonderful scientific task for me was
> searching of something absolute."
> ==..
> And as for the relation between “relativity and absolute”
> Planck wrote, that the fact of  " relativity assumes the
> existence of something absolute" ;
> "the relativity has sense when something absolute resists it.”
> Planck wrote that the phrase " all is relative " misleads us,
>  because there is something absolute .
> And the most attractive thing was for Planck
> “to find something absolute that was hidden in its foundation.”
> 3.
> And Planck explained what there is absolute in the physics:
> a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy,.
> b) The negative 4D continuum,
> c) The speed of light quanta,
> d) The maximum entropy which is possible
> at temperature of absolute zero: T=0K.
> ==.
> I think that these four Planck's points are foundation of science.
> =.
> socratus
>
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