On 24 Mar 2013, at 20:34, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/24/2013 4:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
That kind of things will happen for any type of beliefs, with human
and machines,
Sure, it's called learning from your elders. My parents told me to
look both ways before crossing the street and I believed them
because I trusted them.
Me too.
They told me God created the world and wanted me to go to Sunday
school. I believed them for a long time, but eventually concluded
otherwise.
They told me God did not created the world. I believed them for a
long time, but eventually concluded otherwise.
as long as we tolerate the argument per authority, and lack trust
or faith.
There was really no argument that inculcated these beliefs, just
trust in my parents. Argument comes later when comparing
conflicting theories and evidence.
That's the children problem. For good or bad reason, we tolerate
authoritative argument. I am OK with the less than 4 years old, but I
am not sure for after.
The kind of faith anyone can develop by looking inward.
The trouble with that kind of faith is it's just an affirmation of
your personal prejudices.
Not it leads to the contrary, in practice, when done in some context.
Mathematics is entirely part of that. You can only be convinced by
yourself.
But yes, when done in some community, it can be used as a brainwashing
technic. So it is not easy. Here plants can provide tremendous help,
but it is no more, and/or not yet, in our culture, alas.
Bruno
Brent
And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
--- Friedrich Nietzsche
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