On 01 May 2013, at 21:01, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:55:05 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 29 Apr 2013, at 17:38, Roger Clough wrote:
How can matter (the universe) be a thought in the mind of a cosmic
intelligence ?
How can matter be a thought ? That is because matter is at the base
entirely mathematical, as quantum physics suggests.
References:
Idealism in science: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism
The metaphysics of Leibniz. (http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough)
Paul Davies in "the Mind of God" puts these scientists' discoveries
into context with the writings of philosophers such as Plato.
Descartes, Hume, and Kant.
His startling conclusion is that the universe is "no minor
byproduct of mindless, purposeless forces. We are truly meant to be
here." By the means of
science, we can truly see into the mind of God.
Sir James Jeans wrote; "The stream of knowledge is heading towards
a non-mechanical reality; the Universe begins to look more like a
great thought
than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an
accidental intruder into the realm of matter... we ought rather
hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter."[59]
Mechanism implies idealism, or non materialism. A lot of critics of
mechanism assume materialism, but that is what has been shown
incoherent, if there is no flaw (in UDA).
If we are machine, then it has been argue that numbers dreams
emerges from arithmetic, and appearenace of matter emerges from
those dream. It is not strict idealism, as everything comes from
arithmetic, but it is a form of idealism as the physics is reduced
to an explanation in term of numbers only (or Turing equivalent).
Mechanism implies idealism of a sort, but only an idealism based on
the behavior of materials.
Not at all. It is based on arithmetic or computer science. On the
contrary, the behavior of materials is shown to be reduced to the
infinities of number relations, and matter appears to be appearances.
On the contrary of your suggestion that matter plays some crucial (but
rather mysterious or unexplained) role in the mind.
Turing machines require that something behave as a material
structure behaves - as a concrete framework which persists with
position and functional continuity.
Not at all. Turing machines can be defined in term of addition and
multiplication of natural numbers. Be careful to read good books or
the original papers, as some popularisation of this are often wrong.
This is not a fugue of subjective thoughts and emotions, or
spontaneous impulses, it is a regulating edifice of matter-like
ideas. Mechanism is materialism reduced to an immaterial essence. It
is an evacuated idealism/null-phenomenology.
You might study the UD Reasoning which shows that with mechanism, the
notion of matter is reduced in term of sum on infinities of
mathematical computations.
Bruno
Craig
Bruno
Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 4/29/2013
http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough
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