On 12 Jun 2013, at 21:13, meekerdb wrote:
On 6/12/2013 3:31 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Please allow my incipid observation. Rather then invoke non-
material monads, let us, for arguments sake, assume that thought is
a neurochemical phenomena, and that without this neurochemical
phenomena, there is no thought. Similarly, mathematics as a
phenomena, doesn't exist without a human primate, writing on the
soil with a stick, marking clay or wax tablets, ink on paper, or
human fingers executing a computer program. All material, from
beginning to end. Is there any evidence, of the existence of non-
material things?
That's why there's been a discussion of whether mathematical objects
exist. They certainly exist in the sense of there being proofs of
existential formula, such as Ex(x=prime and x>2 and x<4). But I
don't think satisfying an existential formula is existence in the
physical sense.
I can't agree more.
Physical existence admits of ostensive definition - which
mathematicians think of as not very definite.
Physical existence is about physical reality.
With comp, physical existence is about an internal view of a
mathematical phenomenon occurring from arithmetic when seen from inside.
A collective dream, if you want. It would be an error to put physical
existence as mathematical existence. It is more a psychological or
theological existence.
Bruno
Brent
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