One wonders why this simple observed fact does not percolate down to the masses that continue to spout nonsense that is contrary to the fact. The zero point energy is, at best, electromagnetic in nature and since it is off-mass-shell" cannot contribute to the momentum-energy source of curvature. This also implies that there is no such thing as Planck scale 'foaminess'!
On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 8:51:47 AM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: > > Astronomical observations of the cosmological constant has falsified the > hypothesis that all energy comes from zero-point energy by 120 orders of > magnitude, probably the strongest falsification ever achieved. > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Roger Clough <rcl...@verizon.net<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> *Looking for energy in all the wrong places. Plato's One vs. zero point >> energy >> >> as the ultimate source of energy. >> >> If we compare the metaphysics of Aristostle and Plato, >> we see that Aristotle's fundamental level is the bottom >> level of Being, that of matter. Plato's metraphysics, on >> the other hand, emerges from the top level of Being, >> Mind or Conscuiousness. >> >> So far, to my kniowledge at least, nobody has been able >> to extract energy from "zero point energy." So I suggest >> that we look at Plato's One as the ultimate energy source. >> >> Since there can be only one ultimate source, >> my speculation, guided by the lack of alternatives, >> is that Plato's One or consciousness is the ultimate >> source of energy. It is the subjective form of Aristotle's mattter. >> Following thermodynamics is a good analogy, >> >> >> Perhaps infinite (or huge) energy comes from infinite non-entropy >> accessible to or as part of Mind. Infinite information would' be subjective. >> One also sees >> >> information generated I think by black holes. >> >> Then matter comes out of Mind. This is accord with thermodyanmics (2bd Law) >> >> in which energy (information) from the One (hot information) to the >> cold sink (cold energy, matter, earth, man) >> >> Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >> See my Leibniz site at >> http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough * >> >> Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >> See my Leibniz site at >> http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
