Just a few points:
The advantage of individualism, is it reduces lemming marches, when
everyone is running in the wrong direction. Secondly, the european and
australian members here should realize that the usa has has socialized
medicine for the poor, and for the elderly, for over 50 years now,
called medicaid, and medicare. It seemed some did not know this fact.
Thirdly, most Marxists have capitalist pals, crony capitalists, and the
ideals of Marxism have co-mingled the needs of the super rich. Its a
global phenomena. So how do you all like it? Fourth Ayn Rand was a
script writer, and more of a Shakspeare, then a social philosopher. In
Shrugged, she also used a bit of scifi, amidst a dystopia, which if we
are not careful, could be our future. The cronyism of politics she got
100 percent correct.
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From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
So just "corporatism", then?
Although there is a lot of "superorganism" worship and desire for
national glory in the US, and a strong desire to conquer "inferior and
backward nations" - often by commercial rather than military means.
Plus paying lip service to individualism doesn't seem to contradict
your description of fascism. I guess this is just a matter of degree,
perhaps. After all, one wouldn't wish to appear too outwardly fascist
after the bad rap fascism has had in the 20th century.
On 5 November 2013 14:46, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
On 11/4/2013 5:22 PM, LizR wrote:
Ah, good point. I have even seen "The Resistible Rise of
Arturo Ui". I should have remembered.
So basically America (and various other Western democracies)
currently have fascist governments - the twist being that this
time around, hardly anyone realises the fact!
Not really. Basic to fascism was the idea that a nation was a
super-organism and corporations, individuals, leaders, and the
military were a bound together (fasci), each filling their
function in the super-organism, to achieve national glory (mostly
by conquering inferior and backward nations and bringing them
fascism).
The U.S. pays lip service to individualism and turned
corporations into indivduals.
Brent
Fascism is capitalism plus murder.
--- Upton Sinclair, Presidential Agent II (1944),
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