On 12/7/2013 12:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 06 Dec 2013, at 20:16, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/6/2013 7:27 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com
<mailto:allco...@gmail.com>> wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com <mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>>
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com
<mailto:allco...@gmail.com>> wrote:
A religion is based on dogma, science is not, hence science is not a
religion.
Some religions may be, that doesn't mean they all are, however.
How do you relate science to beliefs about the world and reality? Would you
say
science the collection of those beliefs, or the method for developing the
beliefs?
Science is a way to discover the world, nothing is certain, what you believe now may
be shown wrong tomorrow... that's not the case with religion...
So if science is the way, the way to what? Where do the beliefs belong?
I would say a more correct definition of religion is a collection if beliefs,
regardless of how you got them.
Another attempt to sweep everybody into the religion bin.
Some may rely on dogmas if old books, others on newer books and articles, but either
method, science or stake dogmas can provide the basis of one's world view.
Science never provides the final answer, and so to operate in this world we must act
in our own private beliefs.
And religion is always ready to provide a final answer, one never to be
questioned,
And that is bad, right, but that will continue as long as you forbid to scientist to
take a look on the spiritual questions.
What am I doing to forbid anything? I even cited with approval scientific tests of
"spritual theories".
because if it's the right answer then it must always have been right.
That is just my take according to my own definitions. You may define religion as dogma
and come to different cinclusions.
I take 'religion' to mean what people refer to when they say they belong to a
religion.
Brent
"Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is unable to believe things for which
there is no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of a convenient means of
feeling superior to others."
Again, that is agnosticism, not atheism.
It's a quip, not a serious definition. But I am an agnostic about many things - but not
about the God of theism, the Big Daddy in the sky that billions of people worship and give
money to support a priesthood and sometimes stone those who express doubt. So I'm an
a-theist. You will have to excuse me for holding to a definite meaning of the word
"theist" so that I can express this fact; everybody but you seems to understand me quite well.
Brent
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