On 23 Dec 2013, at 12:59, Edgar Owen wrote:
Jason, John, and Bruno,
One must distinguish here between consciousness itself (the subject
of the Hard Problem), and the contents of consciousness and their
structure (the subjects of the Easy Problems).
The contents and their structure are most certainly computed by the
minds of organisms, but the fact that the results of these
computations are conscious is due to the self-manifesting immanent
nature of reality as I explained in more detail in a post
yesterday....
That is where we might agree. It works with reality = arithmetical
truth (when assuming comp). The immanent truth is just that
proposition like "the machine i stops on argument j" are true
independent of me, like "17 is prime".
Bruno
Edgar
On Dec 22, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
wrote:
On 21 Dec 2013, at 17:09, John Mikes wrote:
'Implicit assumptions'? Jason seems to me as standing on the
platform of physical sciences -
I let Jason answer, but this is not my feeling. It seems to me that
Jason is quite cautious on this, and open to put physics on an
arithmetical platform instead.
John's initial critique was that I seemed to be assuming a lot that
he doe not. I replied to ask what specifically he thinks I am
assuming which he was not. To clarify, I was assuming arithmetical
truth and the idea that the correct computation can instantiate our
consciousness.
Jason
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