On 1/9/2014 8:26 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Dear Brent,
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:19 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 1/9/2014 7:07 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
No Liz, I told you what it IS. It's the happening in computational space
that
enables computations to take place since something has to move for
computations to
occur. All it DOES is provide the processor cycle for computations.
You seem to be nit picking...
Edgar
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 9:56:19 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
No you spent them telling me what it /_does_/. I'd like to know what it
/_is._/
On 10 January 2014 15:54, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
Common Liz, I just spent the last number of posts telling you and
Stephen
what it is... Don't make me repeat myself...
I don't know why there is this concern about Edgar's computations. It's
seems very
much like Bruno's, except Bruno's Universal computer is running all possible
programs (by dovetailing).
AFAIK, I agree. I see little difference except for semantics.
The time that appears on clocks is a computed ordering relation which is
conjugate
to the conserved quantity called "energy".
I don't know how time (the flow of event to event) or its conjugate emerges from either
Bruno or Edgar's proposed theories. Both seem to assume a timeless and static domain
from which everything, literally, emerges. I would like to better understand the
mechanism of the emergence.
Look up the paper by Wooters that I cited, or the earlier one he wrote with Don Page.
It's not mysterious, it's the same question to be answered in any block universe model.
The talk by Knuth you cited was a nice attempt. As one of the commenters noted, it's
seems questionable to base the structure on causality, but it seems to me that Knuth's
assumption of ordering was weaker than physical causality.
Brent
Brent
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